the girl next door

Joined

• started 22 topics
• posted 1,218 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by the girl next door

• 
  535

  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  the girl next door

  AAWA changed their name and installed board members that were real identifiable personas. While some of the dissension at its outset may have been overly aggressive from a band of JWN posters, they were ultimately right on target. These were points of contention for many, even for supporters of AAWA.

  It would be refreshing if these points of contention could be categorized as constructive criticism and that AAWA made changes in part due to these criticisms.

  Building a bridge between AAWA and even the most critical of the JWN community would be hugely advantageous for the entire ExJW community.

  I am grateful for those who respectfully motioned for change and I am grateful that AAWA is not to set in stone not to make changes.

  AAWA has produced some remarkable video and appears to be making headway on multiple levels in exposing harmful policies of the WT.

  As an ExJW how is it possible not to support that effort or at least give a distant nod of "well done" ?
• 
  739

  250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.

  250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.

  stop this #cult!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  the girl next door

  Troll is a highly popular use of verbiage.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/Search?cx=partner-pub-4963413421914369%3Ag5in7s-4bz3&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Troll&sa=Search&siteurl=www.jehovahs-witness.net%2FSearch&ref=www.jehovahs-witness.net%2Fwatchtower%2Fmedical%2F265357%2F30%2F250-000-Jehovahs-Witnesses-have-died-refusing-blood&ss=1213j395667j5
• 
  739

  250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.

  250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.

  stop this #cult!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  the girl next door

  I have fully enjoyed this thread and the debate about specifics. There are strong arguments on both sides. I believe Marvin has presented a solid basis and reasoning for his extrapolations and find them adequate and compelling. I'm not clear on why they need to be degenerated or derided so vehemently, it is pointless in the end. Some people will understand and accept the findings and others will not for various reasons. The fact remains that thousands die from refusing life saving blood transfusions. That should be the focus and that should be the element of this saga that is exposed and developed.

  Everything can be debated and there will always be two camps or more for every subject. It does not behoove anyone to remain so obstinate in their stance that forward progress can't be achieved. Commonality should be aggregated and used to move forward. JWs are killing people with their blood policy. It's a fact. Any body of work that conscientiously and conservatively attempts to expose this fact should be applauded.

  Instead we have been bogged down by a benign post by a girl with very few twitter followers in the first place generating countless hours of debate that is hung up on numbers instead of the real straight forward issue that people are dying.
• 
  46

  Who of you ever lied on your field service reports?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've read a few people mention making up the figures for the field service reports, and i want to find out how common it is.

  i never lied on my report.

  sometimes i'd round up 15 minutes if i'd mentioned jw stuff to my brother that month, but that wasn't falsifying.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  the girl next door

  Every month for the last 10 years I was active. I hated going out in service, if ever asked I would say since I worked at Cedars Hospital that I would witness to my patients or that I was studding with my daughter. Lies to cover up the lies, that is what I learned in the 25 years I was a JW.
• 
  44

  Evil Elderettes, the true Hounds of Hell!

  by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife was told a brother was going to be disfellowshiped, "how do you know this is going to happen?

  " sister so-so said "he was not repentant or humble to the brother's kindness.

  " instead of engaging into a heated debate, she knew who the leak was, so-so's husband.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  the girl next door

  The men are worst then us woman when it comes to the gossip. Woman in the truth are like children, they emulate those they fear or look up to. My BFF, her father is the congregation service overseer and he was telling her all about how they had to remove a sister off of the table duty because she was eating at it. I'm sure she got a talking to about the proper time and place to eat yet the obese elder's wife is never spoken to about gluttony. The difference between this and high school is some of us are more eloquent with our words. Other of us have just learned not to be fearful and say what is on minds.
• 
  12

  Discipline or child abuse? Still going on in the hall?

  by Pickler in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  does anyone else remember all the discipline of children at the meetings?

  i was just thinking how i never see anyone physically punish their children anymore.

  growing up attending meetings there was a constant stream of children being taken out & hit, as well as all the whispered threats, arm squeezing, pinching etc.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  the girl next door

  When my daughter was about a year old the congregation I attended had what I called the baby patrol. If I child made any noise at all, a MS would come and stand at the end of your aisle and stand there till you got up and went in the back room with the child and got them to stop making noise. If the child continued, one of elders wives would get and take the child from the mother and take them outside till they stopped crying. I refused to let the wife an elder that I knew their children and did not want my child growing up like them in any way. The Presiding Overseer, that's what they were called back then, gave me speech and read me the scripture on using the rod. Spanking is just not my thing. I let him know with a few choice words that he was not my husband nor the father of my child and that his opinion meant nothing to me, in fact I told him that his children were some of the rudest adults and I would never take advice from him as a parent. I did not go back to a meeting till I got a person and the baby patrol was abolished.
• 
  35

  What's in your handbag?

  by usualusername in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi people.

  in all my life i have only looked in a womans handbag once.

  it was close to looking at the arc of the covenant.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  the girl next door

  I have all the regular girl stuff, but the most important thing I have is the copy of the three year criminal restraining order against my ex. It's a beautiful thing to not have to deal with him in any.
• 
  60

  My Son and I have about 5 Months Left

  by bavman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i haven't been on here in awhile and it looks like a whole new crowd.

  i disassociated myself about 8 years ago.

  went through a divorce and shunning from most my family.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  the girl next door

  Do not give up on your son. One day, however long it takes, he will feel the guilt I feel. My parents divorced when I was 7. On my 8th birthday my father sent me flowers and balloons. I remember that I was told that I needed to write my father (a "nonbeliever" since my mom converted to a JW after they divorced) a letter quoting scriptures and the watchtower on why I could no longer accept any presents on any holidays from him. I did and my father did not call or send any gifts for more then 30 years. Even when I had my daughter, he did not sent her any gifts because he was trying to respect our effed up religion. Now that I am no longer a JW, my father not only sends my daughter and I gifts for every holiday, he also sends gifts to my step children to be. Your son may think he is doing what is right for him, he is at the age that his only friends are JW"s and probably who he has chosen as his future ex wife. Give him time and he will wake up, it maybe 30 years from now, but he will wake up. Always be there for him even through the pain you may feel. Hopefully you will not have to lose all contact and hopefully it wont take 30 years for him to wake up.
• 
  19

  Blood Issue on Grey's Anatomy Tonight

  by jamiebowers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at 9 pm on abc.

  previews in last two videos on this link:.

  http://www.wetpaint.com/greys-anatomy/articles/greys-anatomy-season-9-episode-13-spoilers-7-things-we-learned-from-the-sneak-peeks-video.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  the girl next door

  I worked in the medical field at a very high profile hospital for a little over 16 years. Back story. When I was 7 months pregnant with my one and only child, my Kaiser doctor said to me as I was lying naked from the waist down, that if my child needed blood that the hospital would get a court order and take my infant away and administer blood if needed. At the time I felt very angry, not because of what he said but because I felt exposed and caught off guard being half naked and his hand inside of me, I wrote a letter and had him removed from that department. When it came time to fill out the paperwork for the birth of my daughter I mentioned no where I was a JW and that I would not receive blood, not because of what the doctor had said to me but because I had to deal with the issue from the stand point of the hospital and doctors. Back to what I did for work, I had the opportunity to speak with parents of JW's that children needed blood or they would have their children removed and a court order would be given to give them blood, I was 8 months pregnant at the last time. Since I knew how the system worked on both ends, I was able to convince two out of three parents to give their children blood. One was taken away, put in the states care and blood was given. I remember being so angry at those parents and the men in suits that were with them, that I even threw the paperwork at them as I left the room. The show tonight touched on the adult, over the age of 18, I wish it had gone into the children and newborns that need blood to survive, so that the still ignorant and brainwashed JW's could see even deeper what harm they cause their children. Now being far from JW's other then my mother, who is an amazing woman and still loves me, my daughter and my extended family, I get angry and very sad at how easy it was for parents to say, "I look forward to seeing my child in new system" and not give the child proper medical care. Now that the blood issue is no longer such an issue, I wonder if my actions were null and void and all my reasoning and hard work was in vain.
• 
  7

  Can Someone please help me find this book called: The Wind Demon Within Me????

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.amazon.com/the-wind-demon-within-possession/dp/1438929994/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=utf8&qid=1359675377&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=wind+demon+mercedes.

  i understand it is out of print but surely someone must have a copy i can buy!

  !.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  the girl next door

  28 page review?

  http://books.google.com/books?id=kdOcysZo8RgC&dq=The+Wind+Demon+Within+me&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=Kjza2UFeqq&sig=s8Y1iS14KOKJGHcklQFoXOm3S24&hl=en&ei=WQmeSan2FKTUMMb-iMUL&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=7&ct=result#v=onepage&q=The%20Wind%20Demon%20Within%20me&f=false